Mr. Bad Example ([info]mrbadexample667) wrote,
@ 2006-02-08 13:19:00
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Bugger. I think I screwed up big time. Either I'm too nice, or I don't think fast enough on my feet, or I'm not clear enough on my job (though I am now!), or all of the above, but I'm fairly sure that this could easily come back to bite me in the ass. See, at the HCC, we aren't responsible for anything people bring in there or leave there, period. If you fall asleep and someone steals your backpack, not our fault. Of course, that's not to say we'd just let it happen, but if we didn't notice and it did, not our fault. Now, this morning, this guy comes to the door, and he bangs a bit, then leaves, but sees me and comes back. Cuz I'm a nice guy (or an idiot) I go open the door a crack to see what he wants. Usually when people do that it's cuz they want condoms or a bandaid or something and I'm fine giving that stuff out. They just can't come in. So this guy wants to leave his bag in the HCC. I tell him he can't, we aren't responsible for anything left on the premises. He says he wants to leave it. I tell him again, if he were to leave his bag, we accept no responsibility for it. As soon as this place opens at 12:30, I tell him, if someone steals it, it isn't our problem and it isn't our responsibility, and I'm not even here. He says that's fine, so I say, well then you can leave it.

If he comes back and picks it up, then all should be fine and dandy. I included the incident in my report so I may catch some flak but if he gets his bag there probably won't be any trouble.

However, what if someone steals his bag I realized later. Does that mean the HCC is liable? Does that mean that I'm liable? Does it mean Paladin is liable? Or does it still just mean what it would mean if he left it here when we were open, that it's his own damn fault? Does what I said to him, informing him we couldn't be held responsible, even count for anything? Knowing the laws in this country, even if he were to lose his stuff but still admit what I had told him, it probably wouldn't. And if he were to lose his stuff and claim I had told him it would be safe, which, let's face it, he would do, then it would be my word against his. And then if I'm technically in the wrong for allowing him to leave his stuff there in the first place, does any of that even matter?

Oi... I think I fucked up pretty good. I guess I'll just have to wait and see. I'm just gonna hope that nobody notices it where I left it until he comes in to get it. I think I felt a hardhat in there, and I really don't want to be liable for lost wages... liable for lost property I can handle, but lost wages would suck.



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[info]mathic
2006-02-08 09:38 pm UTC (link)
as long as you told him that nothing inside the building is liable for it, you're all set, as he said it's fine, he accepts the complete lack of liability in the building. If it gets lost it is now completely his problem. Although unfortunately in the paladin view, you should continue to say no. I'm fairly sure no one will care, but ya, in theory you should just keep refusing as it's easier on both of your parties.

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[info]mrbadexample667
2006-02-08 09:54 pm UTC (link)
I have to remember I'm not there to help people, I'm there to be a wall. I guess I got too worked up in the "build a relationship with the people to make the job easier" bit that everyone kept going on about.

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[info]mathic
2006-02-08 10:10 pm UTC (link)
well it's gonna take some time until you get used to the position, as with every other job, and the best way to look at these situations is to see it as your learning

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[info]mrbadexample667
2006-02-08 10:23 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that's why I kinda wish we had more nights which actually had stuff happening, because it's really through doing that you learn things. At least that's what I find, especially with this kind of work. I've got to start better preparing myself mentally for the things I'm going to be doing. I just hope this is one lesson that doesn't cost me everything.

Course, it's nearly 2:15 now and no phone call or anything, so hopefully it's all good =D

It being 2:15 means it's also time for me to sleep! Last day of work this week tonight! We should try and plan something for Friday or Saturday, if possible.

Thanks for the comments. I think I'll sleep a bit easier now =)

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[info]mathic
2006-02-08 10:39 pm UTC (link)
does this mean you'll be able to come to just jazz?

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[info]mrbadexample667
2006-02-09 09:08 pm UTC (link)
Is that tonight (Thursday)? It's so nice out I might be able to stay awake until the concert. I know that if I fall asleep there's no way I'll wake up, though. I'm gonna stay awake for a bit at least.

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[info]mathic
2006-02-10 12:38 am UTC (link)
yes tonight, it's at the Kay Meek centre in west van though, not handsworth, so you'll have to google map it or something... as I don't even know where it is, I just expect my driver to ^_^

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[info]deosilmau
2006-02-08 10:30 pm UTC (link)
It shouldn't be too much of an issue. You included it in your report, and as long as you wrote down that you did everything in your power to ensure that he knew that you guys aren't liable for it (which you did, by the sounds of it), it should be fine.

Now, if you had done that but NOT written it down, then if his stuff gets stolen, if could become an issue.

But then again, I don't really know the laws. That's just how I would it'd work. Your written report of it would bolster your case immensely should anything happen anyways.

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[info]mrbadexample667
2006-02-09 09:10 pm UTC (link)
When I got there today the bag was gone and that was that. Hopefully the correct guy got it, I'm just gonna assume he did and stop worrying =D

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